9/15 – I feel good that I was able to crank out this long 30 page chapter in this 3-week cadence I am trying to stick to. 2 weeks to pound out a rough first draft, and then the 3rd week for 2nd, 3rd, etc drafts to clean, polish, and juice it up.
8/24 – Starting from scratch on this one was able to get it out in just under 3 weeks. I think I can keep to that cadence. Start with an outline then pound out a rough first draft by the end of the second week. Spend the third doing second and additional drafts as needed to clean it up, flesh it out and juice it up!
8/5 – I was able to get this chapter out in just over 2 weeks, though I did already have it outlined. This one was more about my internal thought processes after another long year of school.
7/22 – Despite being a longer chapter, tho full of dialog, I was able to get thru this one in just about 3 weeks. I’m going to try to keep to that cadence if I can. This one was more fun because it was a party with all those characters that I really enjoy writing!
6/30 – I was able to push out chapter 27 in about 3 weeks. I’d like to keep that cadence if I can!
6/8 – Chapter 26 took nearly 4 weeks as well, tho it was a longer chapter with more scenes!
5/14 – Chapter 25 took a bit longer, nearly four weeks.
4/19 – Chapter 24, which was significantly shorter, took exactly two weeks. Happy to finally be moved from Allmendinger to my last two years of elementary in Burns Park!
4/5 – Chapter 23 took 3 weeks, but it was longer and trickier, but glad it’s done and “in the can”, at least for now!
3/14 – Finished chapter 22 in 11 days. Trying to keep up with this pace!
3/3 – Finished chapter 21 in just a couple weeks, thou I had a mostly completed rough draft from before.
2/17 – Finished chapter 20 in less than 3 weeks. Excited about keeping this pace!
1/30 – Finished chapter 19 in about 3 weeks. Trying to keep that quicker pace up!
1/8 – Finished chapter 18 in under 2 weeks. Hopefully getting a little writing momentum going and on to the next!
12/26 – Finished chapter 17. Did this one in 2 1/2 weeks so keeping that momentum going in my writing!
12/8 – Finished chapter 16. Actually did it in two weeks. Spent the previous two drafting a chapter I finally decided needed to pushed forward a year in my story, from 1963 to 1964.
11/9 – Finished chapter 15.
10/10 – Finished chapter 14. Would like to speed up my writing process to get out a chapter every two weeks, but so far not!
9/6 – Finished chapter 13.
8/12 – A long haul to finish a long chapter 12.
6/30 – Finished chapter 11.
5/31 – Finished chapter 10.
5/12 – Have been having problems with my site. I’m still in the process to resolving them so folks may have intermittent access! Sorry for the confusion… I’m trying to work things out!
4/16 – Took nearly 4 weeks to do chapter 8, but it was another long chapter. Realize I haven’t been updating this for each chapter, so I should go back and do that!
3/20 – Well chapter 7 was long and it took almost 5 weeks… ugh!
2/16 – Took just 2 weeks for chapter 6, tho it WAS a shorter one. Trending well!
2/2 – Took a little more than 3 weeks to do chapter 5. I’d like to be able to stick with 3 weeks per chapter!
1/9 – Took 25 days for CC chapter 4, but had the holidays in there, but happy to keep moving forward!
12/15 – Took 23 days for chapter 3 of CC. A bit longer that chapter 2, but still less than a month. Hoping to push it down to more like 2 weeks per chapter!
11/22 – Took just 18 days to write the second chapter of CC. Will try to keep up the pace!
11/4 – Posted first chapter of “Clubius Contained”. Hoping to be able to up my writing production to get thru what should be about a 40 chapter story in 2 or 3 years!
10/14 – Now pondering on getting started on the follow up novel, “Clubius” Contained”, my narrative about my elementary school years from ages 5 to 11.
10/13 – Posted the final chapter of “Clubius Incarnate”. I had written a good chunk of it before, so it didn’t take as long to complete it. I am very pleased to have written a story from the point of view of a 3 to 5 year old, something I’m at least not aware of having been done before!
10/7 – As I work on the final chapter of “Clubius Incarnate”, I am also beginning to update my written “Two Inch Heels” introduction and chapters based on the updated version that I recorded for my podcast.
9/29 – Posted 40th chapter. Shorter than previous ones with more interior monologue than dialogue. Second to last chapter trying to wrap things up and set the stage for the next story, “Clubius Contained”, where I go to elementary school.
9/9 – Posted 39th chapter. Long and complicated, including reviewing the movie in detail.
8/3 – Posted 38th chapter. Longest one so far with a fair amount of research and crown sourcing about trip to the stadium and the events of the actual game.
6/24 – Posted 37th chapter. Quicker chapter, just took me 2 1/2 weeks.
6/7 – Posted 36th chapter. Another long one. Hope to complete this story with planned 5 more chapters!
5/3 – Posted 35th chapter. Seem to be able to put out one chapter a month.
4/7 – Posted 34th chapter. A particularly long one but with a lot of dialog.
3/10 – Posted 33rd chapter of Clubius Incarnate. Tried to capture the key movie clips and my reactions.
2/9 – Posted 32nd chapter of Clubius Incarnate. Pushing forward with another maybe eight chapters to go, tho multitasking with my Two Inch Heels podcasting.
1/21 – Posted 31st chapter of Clubius Incarnate. Closest thing I’ve written to situation comedy, but with a poignant ending!
12/9 – Finally posted chapter 30 of Clubius Incarnate, just 10 more planned chapters to go! Shooting to finish by maybe the end of April.
12/6 – Been focused on getting my podcasts of “Two Inch Heels” up on the various podcasting sites. Have an intro and first 12 chapters posted, just 41 more to go!
12/2 – Still working on chapter 30 of Clubius Incarnate, but have now posted an intro & first 10 chapters of Two Inch Heels podcast!
11/22 – Started on chapter 30 but have shifted focus for the moment to trying to publish my audio chapters of Two Inch Heels on Podbean and Apple Podcasts.
11/14 – So much for cadence! Just posted chapter 29, a very long one with several levels of story to address!
10/19 – Keeping that cadence of a new chapter every two weeks. This one, 28, built around another of my interesting developmental experiences watching TV.
10/7 – Getting into maybe a flow of posting a new chapter every two weeks! This one, 27, wasn’t part of my original outline for “Clubius Incarnate” but kind of came out of nowhere.
9/25 – This chapter 26 was rewritten based on an earlier piece I wrote about my dad.
9/15 – Got this latest chapter 25 of “Clubius Incarnate” relatively quickly and hope this momentum can grow!
9/2 – After working on or at it all summer, I finally was able to post my next “Clubius Incarnate” chapter, “Nursery School”. Turned out was very difficult to reconstruct a home-based pre-school in the late 1950s in progressive Ann Arbor, then build a whole story leading up to my one vivid memory of pleading with a kid thru the fence to get me out of there.
8/26 – Finally got my “Two Inch Heels” summary page properly updated referencing the new five opening chapters. Still in the process of renumbering all the old chapters.
8/25 – Have taken a break from “Clubius Incarnate” to try creating podcast episodes for “Two Inch Heels”, and in the process ending up rewriting the first three chapters into now five chapters. Posting the podcasts are still TBD at this point.
6/14 – Just 2 weeks to get out chapter 22 tho about half as long as the previous one, written as a recap by my character rather than scenes with dialog.
5/30 – Getting back in the groove of writing after my transition into retirement. Chapter 21 is quite long and chocked full of stuff as I start to develop that ‘tude befitting a four year old.
4/25 – Finally got chapter 20 posted, pushing the story forward up to my fourth birthday.
3/14 – These chapters of my early youth, including chapter 19 just posted seem so much harder to render, since I’m pretty much making up so much of the detail based on my few slivers of memory and what I was told.
2/14 – Another long slog with chapter 18, recreating the Christmas I spent at my grandparents house and trying to bring all my family members’ characters alive.
1/10 – I rewrote the intro paragraphs for my “Two Inch Heels” memoir to try to better capture the gist of the thing and make a more compelling case to a potential reader.
12/19 – Finally got this very challenging chapter 17 posted after sharing a draft with my aunt Pat and getting her input. This writing is much more challenging given I am writing as a very young person and obviously have no written journal to base my pieces on.
11/6 – This piece was half written back a year and a half ago when I decided to rewrite Two Inch Heels, and now I have finally gotten back to this very different “imagined memoir” from the point of view of a truly young person!
10/24 – Final chapter rewrite completed. A great deal of emotion for me to let this thing go and be what it will be, and moving on!
10/18 – Chapter 44, another quick rewrite. Almost done! Hope to have the last chapter polished off next weekend!
10/16 – Another quick rewrite of chapter 43, a climax of sorts and another one of my favorites.
10/11 – A quick rewrite of chapter 42.
10/4 – I read the new posted version of 41 and felt I needed to make more updates.
10/3 – Rewrite of chapter 41, one of my favorites.
9/27 – Rewrite of chapter 40.
9/19 – Now a particularly long chapter but sticking to my weekly pace, a rewrite of chapter 39.
9/12 – Still on a cadence of one piece a week, posted rewrite of chapter 38.
9/5 – On a role with these quicker rewrites, reworked several conversations and posted chapter 37.
8/30 – Another quick rewrite of chapter 36 despite expanding a previously summarized conversation.
8/28 – Was a quick rewrite of the 2nd half of chapter 35, since there were not summarized conversations to build out into the real thing.
8/23 – Broke chapter 35 into two parts, and posted rewrite of the first part, turning the paragraph overview of the conversation in the brewery into a major dialog scene.
8/16 – Rewrite of part 34 included truncating piece at end of initial day and turning the conversation summaries into more real conversation.
8/8 – Rewrite of part 33 took a bit more work, but some nice adds including a song lyric to keep that trend going in every chapter.
8/1 – The rewrite of part 32 was pretty quick, only adding a little dialog to replace dialog summary. It is an interesting decision when to use actual dialog vs summarizing that dialog.
7/26 – After the slog thru 30, just needed a fairly quick rewrite of part 31, again just turning some conversation summary into dialog.
7/25 – Finally posted the rewritten part 30, which I almost let remain pretty much as it was, but then decided to rewrite the summarized conversation as mostly actual dialog and did some serious expansion of the piece.
7/12 – And part 29 B quickly follows with the new title ‘Triumvirate’
7/11 – Posted separated and somewhat updated first half of 29th chapter, still with the ‘Snow Day’ title
7/10 – Posted rewritten 28th chapter, happy that these latest chapters seem to need less rework, and sorry for the length!
7/3 – Posted rewritten 27th chapter, finding a nice pacing to the piece and again some added character dialog and an additional provocative verse for “Marching to Pretoria” coming home from the village pub
6/29 – Posted rewritten 26th chapter, with just some added dialog to flesh out characters and match the continuity of more use of the Cleveland gang in my earlier Italy pieces
6/26 – Posted rewritten 25th chapter, not as extensive rewrite, just part in tunnel. Definitely won’t finish whole thing by August target, but hopefully by end of year
6/14 – Posted rewritten 24th chapter, another fairly extensive rewrite
5/29 – Posted rewritten 23rd chapter, doubling the length of the piece
5/15 – Posted second rewritten half of 22nd chapter, another extensive rewrite
4/19 – Posted first rewritten half of 22nd chapter, probably my biggest most challenging rewrite so far
3/22 – Posted rewritten 21st chapter, with significant additions of dialog
2/29 – Posted second half (part B) of now split 20th chapter, with some significant changes
2/16 – Posted first half (part A) of now split 20th chapter, because it was so long and really now lent itself to division.
2/6 – Posted the second half (part B) of old 19th chapter.
1/31 – Posted first half (part A) of now split in two 19th chapter, because it had gotten so long, including a significant rewrite adding some dialog to flesh our my characters Morgan, Jen and Sarah!
1/19 – Posted rewritten 18th chapter, with more of a rewrite adding some dialog to try and tie up Steve story better!
1/17 – Posted rewritten 17th chapter, with a minor rewrite!
1/13 – Posted rewritten 16th chapter, with very little I felt I could rewrite this time!
1/12 – Posted rewritten 15th chapter, with lesser rewrite!
1/4 – Posted rewritten 14th chapter, with lesser rewrite!
12/26 – Posted rewritten 13th chapter, with big rewrite of a major scene!
12/15 – Posted rewritten 12th chapter, a long piece!
12/8 – Posted rewritten 11th chapter, trying to capture a very different feel of things in Spain!
11/22 – Posted rewritten 10th chapter, I really liked how I was able to amp up characters and get a good flow!
11/9 – Posted rewritten 9th chapter
10/20 – Posted rewritten 8th chapter
10/19 – Posted rewritten 7th chapter
10/9 – Posted rewritten 6th chapter
9/29 – Posted rewritten 5th chapter
9/22 – Posted rewritten 4th chapter
9/8 – Posted rewritten 3rd chapter. Feeling good about rewrite enriching depth of story.
9/2 – Posted rewritten 2nd chapter with significant rewrite involving adding some key conversations
8/18 – Posted a now rewritten, expanded and divided 1st chapter of my memoir, now titled “Two Inch Heels”, of backpacking thru Europe in 1973 at age 18.
Nice piece, Coop, especially the analogy to the military industrial complex. If one takes Eisenhower’s ’61 speech and replaces ‘military’ with education, there are some eerie parallels. Your inclusion of Cubberly’s quote, identifying children as a “raw product”, shows how little has changed in the past 88 years.
The education analyst for CNN, Steve Perry, summed it up best a few weeks ago when he said that schools had become a convenience for the adults at the expense of educating children.
It will take a generation to restore US schools to among or the world’s best – and only if we make it a priority. Finland, ranked #1 worldwide in test scores, took about that long. There has to be a balance between robotic testing and ensuring each student individual learning freedoms. The first step is to model what has proved successful in other countries. Modeling failure – essentially what we’re doing now – obviously doesn’t work.
Finland had 3 teachers per classroom, a goal which could work in the US. Finland requires teachers to have a masters degree. And, I believe most important, two other criteria: ALL Finnish teachers graduated in the top 10% of their class (47% of US teachers graduated in the bottom 50% of their class) and teachers were paid exceptionally well.
The US teachers would have to change, too. Removing low performing teachers needs to be far easier and quicker. Tenure would be granted after 5-10 years, not 2 years.
Students should not be grouped into grades by age, but by ability. A wider variety of classes should be available, especially after 6th grade. Nor should school be mandatory. Those who choose to drop out, however, might have to contribute to society in other ways (volunteerism, military, financial).
There are many other changes which could be made. More parental involvement would certainly be beneficial. The bottom line is that something so important to our future – our children’s education – needs to be updated and its 18th century roots obliterated. I wonder if our country has the courage, insight, and desire to do so.
First of all Luke… thanks for giving me the inspiration to right this piece and the follow-up one. I second a lot of your thoughts, particularly one about not having school be mandatory, that by itself would be such a profound change, but is a very scary idea to most people, who think if kids aren’t coerced to learn, they won’t.
The one thing I would add to your list is to allow for profoundly different types of schools, that would be options for kids and their families if the conventional instructional school was not right for them Have say charter schools wlth more holistic curricula and free schools that are completely learner-driven. No “flavor” of school is right for everyone… many paths for many souls.
Thanks for your comment. I don’t get many on my blog. I get a lot more on the Daily KOS version at http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/10/10/909312/-My-Schooling-Versus-My-Job-Skills-Provenance
I found your article, along with others, by googling “Education-Industrial Complex.” I’m disappointed–because I thought I had coined the term myself a few weeks ago in writing a scene for a novel, then find that others have beaten me to it!
Anyway, I have mixed feelings about how the term is being employed. I read Peterson’s piece before yours, and when he complains about “throwing money at the problem” and talks about state standards subverting teachers responding to community standards, I detect code words favoring right-wing bias against paying teachers a decent wage (with the behavior of many students in some schools, you couldn’t possibly overpay teachers), and the attitude of some local rubes that students shouldn’t be taught no evolution nonsense, nor nothin’ else that contradicts their infallible scripture. These types want indoctrination, not true education: inculcating within students the joy of learning and ways of critical thinking.
On the other hand, there do seem to be major structural problems with our educational system. But I’m not sure the problem is solved by “removing low performing teachers”–simply because by what standard do you measure such, without succumbing to the same kind of pressure that led to the No Child Left Behind “Teach to the Test” response? If the students don’t perform well, is that because the teacher is bad, or because s/he was stuck with the worst of the students? This is a common reaction of teacher’s unions, and I think it’s a legitimate one.
Yet, I’m not convinced that the current mantra of “more computers in the classroom” is not an artifact of succumbing to the pressure of said Education-Industrial complex. Computer literacy is important, but I’m not convinced that students need to spend more than an hour or two a day at school using them to gain the skills needed for modern life (and certainly not at the expense of other kinds of skills such as art, music, and shop classes).
I also reject the idea that everyone should go to college immediately after high school, for I think having real world, earn-your-own-minimum-wage experience is invaluable first, with a good dose of manual labor. Too many young college students waste valuable tuition screwing around when they first begin because they haven’t developed sufficient self-reliance skills. They can learn that by trying to party and hold a job, and learn those consequences with less expense. The idea that parents should pay for their adult kids’ college education seems to me also a part of the complex: How about reducing administrators and making college affordable so that kids can work themselves through college, with no prejudice toward them if they take more than four years to complete a bachelor’s degree?
And how about widespread implementation of an idea sure to rock the university establishment: Granting credit for passing exams in subjects that one has learned on their own, even if you never attend a particular university, and paying no more than reasonable examination fees for same? With a detailed syllabus available to anyone in advance, including recommended readings, so that anyone could gain most of their college credits without paying such high fees?
Footnote: I mentioned at the outset that I thought I had just coined “Education-Industrial Complex.” Double-checking on the draft of my novel, I see that the term I used was directed at higher education, “University-Industrial Complex.” Someone else also thought that one up before me, at least as far back as 1986, in the context of biotechnology industries. Drat.
Again… honoring your extensive comment with a hopefully comparable response…
Ah well… it is too good a phrase to avoid coinage this long!
I am familiar with some of those code words and don’t know if Peterson is trying to transmit them between the lines. I do find myself siding often with more conservative types in pushing for educational liberty vs being socially engineered by the state. My own kids ended up “homeschooling rather than high schooling” because that state control of their education seemed to be hindering their development. (So is that concern more legit than religious folks not wanting their kids to have a secular education?)
Agreed… the whole area of evaluating teachers needs a lot more thought. It should not be about encouraging all teachers to teach to the test but rather creating an enriched environment where students can learn (and as much as possible on their own initiative).
The main structural problem I see is that public education is a massive hierarchical institution modeled not-unlike the defunct Soviet Union, rather than a network of locally-focused venues where students can come and pursue their development in an enriched environment with caring adult mentors and teachers as needed. In our school systems, think how many degrees of separation their are between the students, parents and teachers who are directly involved in the developmental process and the real decision-makers up at the state level who are mandating what, where, when, and how students are mandated to learn.
Doing the same old drill sheet on a computer rather than hard copy is no step forward, but learning how to use the Internet as a self-directed learning tool is valuable to everyone in my opinion. Just like the printing press in the 16th Century revolutionized European society and facilitated the Protestant Reformation, The Enlightenment and the transition from monarchies to republics, I believe the Internet will revolutionize learning and completely transform the role of the teacher and the education system.
Agreed. I think college is best framed as one of many educational options a person might call on to facilitate their development.
I think some forward-thinking colleges are starting to do that.
Well… keep wordsmithing!
In 1994, I wrote an article (Picciano, A.G. (1994).Technology and the evolving educational-industrial Complex, Computers in the Schools, 11(2), pp. 85 101), describing the emergence of informal networks and alliances centered on the use of technology in K-12 schools. While I have not pushed it, I believe my article is the first documented use of the term.
Anthony… Would you be willing to send me a link to your article? If I write more about the education-industrial complex I would like to be able to site what you have written. It is such an appropriate and powerful framing!
Cooper Zale
http://www.leftyparent.com
This is even more true about phd granting institutions; I wish I had never wasted my life there.
Ali… I would be interested to hear more of your experience and your thoughts!
Cooper,
This is my favorite piece by you so far. Thank you for sending me the link today. The issue is that we are now living in a situation others have created for us and it feels like a runaway train.
Suburban schools are now beginning to see the issues that city schools have seen for years and it’s about time they wake up. I taught in a city school for many years and I am now in a suburband school.
Thanks for sharing this Coop.
Peter…. your comment made my day! If the things I am calling out are resonating with someone like you (who is in the midst of this big system and still trying to provide a real learning opportunity for kids) it encourages me to keep up my witness and advocacy!
Nice article. I would think the fix would be the same as fixing the problem with the Military Industrical Complex. At the core of the problem is privitization and corporate influence. That has to go in order to have real honest progress. By the way, one can also see this same trend in the Prison-Industrial-complex or the Healthcare-industrial-complex.
Will… thanks. In many ways the larger corporate community builds its major institutional markets, including with the prison and health care industries as you point out. I actually work in sales operations in the health insurance industry, but for a non-profit health insurance provider.
The issue is to what extent the influence of big business facilitates or retards the normal development of the particular institution.
Great post Coop.
It’s funny because when you and I began corresponding last year I felt like we were on different pages. I was the public school guy and you were the one who was not a fan of public schools. Through our communication back and forth, I realized that we were more similar than different.
I enjoyed this piece very much and agree that if we are truly going to help individual students we have to get away from our present course. I think public schools have always needed to change but I believe it even more now.
Thanks for always inspiring me to think differently.
Peter… Thanks again for the thoughts… I checked and I guess I had sent it to you before. I put links at the end of my comments when I think something I’ve written expands on the subject of your piece and/or my comment (plus getting a few more folks hopefully reading my blog).
In continuing to read your blog I see your position evolving beyond the consensus conventional wisdom around what an education system needs to be to be effective in the 21st century and particularly the whole of “school”, from a place where young people are “taught” (acted upon for their own good) to a place where young people “have resources to learn” (act on their own behalf). Perhaps a subtle distinction to some, but to me, a profound one. I would be curious on your thoughts on this!
I have to confess that I personally am pretty negative on school as conventionally constituted (instructional rather than holistic or democratic-free), and am a strong proponent for life learning (aka unschooling). I can’t see how, if attendance is mandatory, plus what you do as a learner when you get there is controlled by others, and a significant percentage of kids wouldn’t choose what they are being required to do, that your venue does not take on components of a “velvet incarceration”, and spoil the real pursuit of learning dynamic.
That said, since I know kids and parents that just love a good instructional school, I move to what I feel is a more effective position of “many paths”, promoting a range of educational options for kids. I think given access to all those choices, at least a percentage of families would choose the more self-directed learning venues, and from eventual successes they would grow in popularity.
Cooper, thank you for writing this.
When I used that term at my school last year while trying to make sense of the convoluted way we educate (or fail to educate) our children, it was met with a collective sigh and, “Oh, yes, that describes ‘the system’ perfectly.”
Have been using it ever since and just now decided to Google it as well! I knew I couldn’t have been the only one to see it that way.
20 years ago, over the protests of my husband and several friends, I pulled our children from the jaws of public education and braved the waters of home education.
A friend used to say, “But you don’t really home school, because you are never at home!”
Right. We car schooled, park schooled, museum schooled and back-porch schooled while caring for two grandmothers. We schooled at the riverside and at the humane society, while out camping, and while delivering meals on wheels. We ‘lived’ at the library, volunteered at the children’s museum and took classes in areas we thought might be interesting or fun or necessary for a good education.
I had no idea what a good education was supposed to look like, but I knew what I didn’t want it to look like for our children.
20 years ago I promised my husband (who didn’t think we should abandon the ‘sinking ship’) that I would eventually return to public school to do whatever I could do to help. Working 5 years now in the public school system, I wonder if it is even possible to help. Resources of time, money, talent, and good will are being spent on things which keep us from being sued, or create another fundraiser or make us look good on our report card. It seems as though we place a higher value on maintaining ‘a system’ instead of providing the finest possibe education for our children.
Delpha… you’re welcome… glad the piece resonated with you and the term “education industrial complex” is a useful descriptor of a situation that many who are involved in schools maybe understand at some level but do not name. I keep imagining how different public schools could be if they were truly run by the immediate “stakeholders”, the teachers and the students, following a democratic model, the model we supposedly want kids to learn to be effective citizens in our democratic country.
If you have not read it already I would be interested in my piece “You May Have Missed the Corporate Takeover of Education”, documenting the beginnings of the education industrial complex in the early 20th century. I would be interested on your further thoughts on that.
Interesting. I’m a conservative, but have found little in this blog post, and even little in the comments, with which to disagree. (Okay … I don’t think that a school which was ‘run by … the teachers and the students’ — one man, one vote? — would be anything other than a continuous party, unless the students were Asians. I have an image of my six-year old granddaughter deciding what she is to be taught … )
One thing that I think many people on both Left and Right tend to avoid looking at: demographics.
Is it not possible that an educational system which works best for children from middle-class homes with an intact family of college-graduate parents, might not be optimal for kids from, say, a Chicago public housing project?
And in the latter case, the general Leftist case, that the problem lies in ‘society’, not in the school, is, sadly, true. (Of course, leftists generally mean, by ‘society’, “It’s the capitalists’ fault,” which is not true. Would that it were, because then it would be remediable.)
I live in the UK, and have taught in our equivalent of high schools in both a ‘deprived’ and an ‘affluent’ area [both in mainly-white areas, by the way], and the difference was like that between night and day.
Nothing — or very little — to do with the quality of the teachers, or any ‘instructional methods’, or difference in material provision. In the school in the ‘deprived’ area, I cannot imagine any change in the educational system that would radically transform the dismal reality: you could triple the school budget, hire only Finnish teachers, teach using only Direct Instruction, or Constructivist, methods (chose your panacea) …. and at best you might lift a small percentage of otherwise-doomed kids onto the path to a decent life. But not more.
Doug… I appreciate your thoughtful and provocative comment, and will try to honor it by attempting to respond in kind!
I read a discomfort in unmanaged human nature in your initial concern about teachers and students running their schools by the democratic process. Though I don’t share that discomfort I would guess that most people, on both the left and the right, would agree with you there, and believe that people need to be properly disciplined, trained, and demonstrate mastery of that training before they can be allowed to run their own lives and chart the course of their own development. My own life’s experience, some 57 years now as both young person and parent, has given me a more positive take on human capabilities, including that of six-year-olds like your granddaughter.
I certainly do agree with your point that a school that might work well for one group of people does not necessarily work well for everyone. But I don’t think it is an issue of rich vs poor so much as that every person is a unique soul that is best served by crafting their own unique developmental path. The government (representing the larger community) can’t be expected to look into each one of those unique souls and know what is best for them, and then design one sort of educational venue that will best serve all of them. Despite some of the thinking over the past two centuries of industrial society, I don’t think human beings are interchangeable widgets that can be given a standardized education as if they were. The best that government/community can do is to allow the broadest possible diversity of educational paths so that the young person and their trusted parents and mentors can make the most appropriate choice.
As a student of history, my take is that the development of human civilization began with hierarchies of control (slaveholders over slaves, lords over serfs, whites over people of color, men over women, privileged over underprivileged) but is inexorable moving towards circles of equals (democracy, partnership, egalitarianism). As a self-described conservative, I would suspect you do not share this view of human development, but I will let you speak for yourself on that. So based on my take on our species’ developmental path, it seems right to me that all our educational institutions should model the circle of equals, democracy rather than a more authoritarian hierarchy of control.
I would love it if you are up to continuing this conversation. I await your thoughtful response to mine.
Cooper Zale
http://www.leftyparent.com
Cooper: thank you in return for your civil response. (Obviously, neither of us are mainstream Americans.)
First, let me say that, contrary to your expectation, I happen to agree with you that the human species is moving towards a more egalitarian and democratic society, albeit along a bumpy and uneven road, with serious setbacks along the way.
Human nature doesn’t change very much, if by human nature we mean everything that influences how we behave which has a biological substrate. No doubt there is some natural selection going on, but that’s far too slow to explain how, within a few generations, Vikings turn into peaceful Danes, Mayan astronomers become oppressed Guatemalan peasants, Jewish merchants and scholars become commanders of tank columns, and so on. Material circumstances are key, not some inalterable essence of being that is imprinted in the blood.
I give the credit for the most recent advances to capitalism, of course, and am joined in my appreciation for this system by Karl Marx. No more unrestrained pangyric to the ability of capitalism to undermine oppressive traditional societies exists than will be found in The Communist Manifesto, which should be required [sorry!] reading in all of our schools. (It should then be followed by Steven Pinker’s The Blank Slate, and his The Better Angels of Our Nature).
Be that as it may, I think that it would be useful, for cynical skeptics like myself, if you spelled out in a bit more detail how it would be decided, in the sort of schools you envision, what is taught and learned. I suspect that you believe that, in a proper democratic school, children would learn pretty much the same thing that I want them to learn in what you would call an authoritarian school.
I think you’re now homeschooling your children. This means that you decide what they should learn. No doubt, your methods of teaching and guiding them are subtle and respectful, but I am absolutely certain not just that your children have been taught to read (or would have been had you homeschooled them from the start), but are probably more well-read than average. I’ll bet their vocabulary is larger than is the norm for their age group, too. And that this is down to decisions made, not by them, but by their parents. And quite right too.
In fact, I suspect that if my grandchildren were turned over to you for their education, I would probably be satisfied with the outcome when they were 18. Yes, they might have picked up some annoying liberal political beliefs that I would disagree with, but that wouldn’t be nearly so important as the fact that I’ll bet they would, to pluck a few educational desiderata at random, know who Napoleon and Cromwell and Caesar and Leonardo da Vinci and Jane Austen and Plato and Winston Churchill were; know what radiocarbon dating is; know that, if not why, planets closer to the sun must move faster than those further out; what atonal music is; have read Lincoln’s Second Inaugral Address; know what the Reformation was; know what a standard deviation is; know what it means to call something a “Noah’s Ark”, and so on.
I’ll bet they would have the skills to research information on the internet, and to be properly skeptical of it, and to drive, and to negotiate the world of credit cards and bank accounts and so on. (Maybe I’d have to make sure they learned how to use firearms properly, but that’s no big deal.)
Let me argue it from another direction. The advance towards a more egalitarian and democratic world did not occur, is not occuring, in a vacuum.
We literally could not have had a liberal democratic society (other than one embracing a small minority of society) 5000 years ago. It took the growth of the forces of production, over many millenia, to get us to where we are today — and that, only in the advanced countries. (Thus the folly of expecting liberal democracies to grow up in backward countries, where illiteracy, poverty and superstition is still rife.)
And someone who is six years old is in the same situation as an illiterate African or Afghan peasant. They don’t have the intellectual wherewithal to make rational decisions yet. That’s why there is an almost universal human consensus — even among backward peoples, who often have great respect for education — that learning to read and write and do arithmetic is a good thing. It empowers you. So our children don’t get to make a choice about that. And a good thing too.
Do we really disagree here?
Doug… I think we do disagree in some key ways which makes for the worthwhile discussion!
But I’m glad to read that you share my take of human society’s transition from hierarchy to circles of equals. I see part of that transition learning to acknowledge the inherent worth and dignity of every person and treat no one as an inferior or superior or as chattel. As that societal transition is reflected in you and I, I imagine we share the belief people of color are not inferior to white people and women are not inferior to men. Our human history is all about moving from various types of “us and them” thinking, including a superior “us” needing to somehow control the inferior “them”.
Where I may take it a step farther than you is seeing that young people should be brought into that circle of equals thinking, even before they reach the age of majority. Would you agree that they are not chattel, and they are not inferior while their parents are superior? I always note that “child” is a pejorative word in our culture, one used to accuse someone of being irresponsible and erratic.
From my experience as a young developing person and watching my own kids develop, “children” are neither irresponsible nor erratic. To the extent they are made privy to what’s going on around them they are generally very thoughtful while being cognizant of their limitations. As my mom always used to say (she was an unorthodox egalitarian parent for the 1950s) “Kids will tell you what they need!”
So when it comes to imagining educational venues for young people, including possibly something described as a “school”, I would say that all learning needs to be initiated by the learner, on their internal time frame and pace. Society should not dictate the learning process, for in doing so they hinder and diminish it. What society can do is facilitate that process by allocating its resources to give young people an enriched environment where they have access to knowledge, opportunities for play and imagination, and access to adult (and older youth) mentors and counselors as needed and requested. IMO, real learning is not something done to someone it is something done by someone at their own initiation. Maybe they initiate to put themselves in a classroom to be instructed on a particular subject or maybe they do not.
Transitioning from hierarchies of control to circles of equals is all about also transitioning from directive to facilitative leadership. In a circle of equals it is the assumption that everyone speaks for themselves and is an empowered agent of their own behalf. I view young people no differently than adults in this regard. In this thinking do I part company with where you are at?
My partner Sally and I pulled our kids (now young adults) out of school to let them homeschool during their teen years. They negotiated with us to pursue a more self-directed form of homeschooling known as “unschooling”, as pioneered by radical educator John Holt. They chose how they would spend their time and what knowledge and skills they would pursue. They ended up involved in a myriad of projects that I would have never thought of suggesting but contributed profoundly to their development. Going beyond my mom’s mantra, our kids not only told us what they needed they pursued what they felt they needed to be fully realized human beings.
So where I think we see things significantly differently, is that I would say our children should make a choice about what they learn and we should trust human nature (unlike John Calvin and all his contemporary disciples) to let them drive their own lives, with our love and suggestions of course, and even our advice when asked.
Now that I think I’ve clarified where I’m coming from I’m really interested in your further thoughts!
Cooper: we clearly disagree about the nature of humans, and maybe about human nature too. To me, the way in which humans have become more equal, is that they have become more equal in formal political rights. But surely you agree that in terms of knowledge and various personal characteristics, there is a huge range of among people. I am not the equal of a Nobel Prize winner in physics, with respect to knowledge about how the physical world works. But I am sure you agree about this.
What the human future holds, no one knows. I hope that as we understand and gain control of our own biology, we’ll be able to produce future generations where everyone has a plentiful supply of desirable human qualities, such as high IQ and physical robustness. In the meantime, we just have to plug along.
A possible relevant quote which you may like from, of all people, Leon Trotsky:
How man enslaved woman, how the exploiter subjected them both, how the toilers have attempted at the price of blood to free themselves from slavery and have only exchanged one chain for another – history tells us much about all this. In essence, it tells us nothing else. But how in reality to free the child, the woman and the human being? For that we have as yet no reliable models. All past historical experience, wholly negative, demands of the toilers at least and first of all an implacable distrust of all privileged and uncontrolled guardians.
Anyway, let me give you a couple of links to sites with which you are probably already familiar, but if not, in which you will be interested.
http://www.educationrevolution.org/
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/
Great comments. I am an educator attending a leadership conference. I listened to a gentleman today by the name of Nicco Mele. He has written a book called The End of Big. Basically, he shared some of his thoughts about the rapid technological changes and the effects on our country and world today. As I thought about how difficult change is in society and in education, my mind drifted as I compared education to the Military Industrial Complex in our country. How many institutions, businesses, jobs rely on education money for their economic existence. I’m in education and can see the difficulty in trying to break away from an education system created essentially in the 1800’s. I have two thoughts for you… First, why not create a new educational model based on technology driven individualized instruction. Take a school system somewhere that’s willing to change and make them your test trial. Then expand from there. Second, let’s have true campaign finance reform. No campaign contributions from big business, corporations, or foreign countries. Contributions should only come from tax paying citizens. People who have a real interest in what’s best for America, not there business bottom line!
Oops… their bottom line
The problem with trying to do something different in a public school setting are the damn standards and high-stakes school assessments around those standards. Forces all public schools to be instructional, particularly those in poorer neighborhoods where kids don’t have as much opportunity to be involved in enriched environments and be mentored by adults outside of school.
But yeah… individualized learning. I’m not a big fan of “instruction”. Sure some instruction is okay if someone comes to you and asks you to explain to them how something works or to share your expertise.
My own kids “unschooled” after we pulled them out of school in their early teens. A lot of their learning happened thru technology, on the Internet. See my piece “Unschooling Rather Than Highschooling”.
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In the same speech though never mentioned, Eisenhower also referenced the great educational government complex. They had not reached a toe of the iceberg yet.
” In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.
The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.
Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.”
If a department head wants that government research grant funding his galloping around the world in search of climate change, he had damn well better support the accepted science. If a professor hopes to get that promotion to department head he had better stand with the prevailing view. If a professor wants full tenured status, don’t make waves on climate science, down to if a student wants his research to pass, if he wants to graduate meteorological school he had better accept all previous research on climate change. Weather scientists and other scientists who believe the weather stats have been cherry picked and cooked to reach a predetermined conclusion are ousted and scandalized.
Beware the government educational complex.
Duane… though I’m a strong believer in the scientific consensus around climate change, and the need for concerted action, like proposed in the Green New Deal, to fight it, I do agree with your point about universities adapting themselves to be research arms of the government more so than just be about educating individuals. Given that they are publicly funded institutions (at least to some degree beyond increasingly hefty tuitions) they want to be focused on the “public good”, however that is defined, and most often defined by the government. In my opinion, there is way too much money, markets and capitalism involved in the business of educating young people in a standardized way, standardized not in the best interests of those students, but in the best interests of an entrenched educational bureaucracy built in conjunction with those markets.
Thanks for your comment and I would love to dialog further. I sense your more conservative political worldview, given your challenge to the legitimacy of climate change, but I always welcome dialoging with people who I have disagreements with to better understand those differences and explore where there might be common ground!